[ { "start": 846.0, "end": 847.52, "text": "Yes. Secondary" }, { "start": 847.52, "end": 859.5199995, "text": "server or it could be a completely different server? So if it is completely different, it's called enterprise cluster now and you need the license for that. It it will live both on the primary and the secondary," }, { "start": 859.5199995, "end": 869.095001, "text": "but it will run off the primary and proper. So remember, you'll still have set up Postgre on each node. It's just that the second one is just getting replicating," }, { "start": 869.095001, "end": 870.615, "text": "waiting for a failover." }, { "start": 873.015, "end": 874.455, "text": "Right? Okay. Yeah." }, { "start": 875.16, "end": 880.76, "text": "It's so so that's the big difference between enterprise cluster and standard cluster that remains." }, { "start": 880.760002, "end": 886.44, "text": "In the enterprise cluster, you have a separate database. So the resources are just for the database on this server," }, { "start": 887.125, "end": 891.605, "text": "while the servers themselves only carry the production the bulk the ST." }, { "start": 892.164997, "end": 897.364998, "text": "While in the standard cluster, it's a database and ST on the same box," }, { "start": 897.605, "end": 900.964996, "text": "and whoever is the primary is getting also connections from the secondary." }, { "start": 901.56, "end": 903.0, "text": "That's the main difference." }, { "start": 904.2, "end": 911.96, "text": "So should make everyone's life a lot easier, especially because now you can see tracking tables from both places. And if someone has some" }, { "start": 912.28, "end": 917.24, "text": "tooling done that is chasing who is the primary so you can read the tracking table, you don't need that anymore." }, { "start": 917.935005, "end": 923.6949999999999, "text": "If you're doing onboarding, it doesn't matter which of the nodes you are onboard into because you don't have the" }, { "start": 923.69501, "end": 925.775, "text": "old rigmarole of" }, { "start": 926.015, "end": 931.375, "text": "either a route on the secondary needs to send to the primary just to be sent back to me and so on. So" }, { "start": 932.21, "end": 933.090004, "text": "efficiency" }, { "start": 933.090004, "end": 937.65, "text": "wise, depending on your use case, we I've seen between 3050%" }, { "start": 937.65, "end": 939.97, "text": "improvement in throughput and speed." }, { "start": 941.81, "end": 945.17, "text": "But this is as long as you don't kill your server, of course." }, { "start": 945.965004, "end": 948.285, "text": "Right? So Right. But" }, { "start": 949.085, "end": 953.965004, "text": "it it's it's a lot more efficient model, and and how much improvement you will see" }, { "start": 954.4449999999999, "end": 962.590004, "text": "in terms of speed and performance and so on really depends on your exact scenarios. There are things that just take time." }, { "start": 962.99, "end": 964.91, "text": "But in terms of reliability," }, { "start": 964.91, "end": 966.51, "text": "it's a lot cleaner model." }, { "start": 966.75, "end": 974.51, "text": "Also, if you lose if the node need to restart because something went horribly wrong, it can self rejoin without even telling you. So" }, { "start": 975.0250100000001, "end": 975.74501, "text": "it's" }, { "start": 975.82501, "end": 977.585, "text": "it's a cleaner model." }, { "start": 978.9449999999999, "end": 985.10501, "text": "And the good news is that it's essentially reusing a lot of the capabilities of the enterprise cluster model," }, { "start": 986.38501, "end": 993.71002, "text": "which means that a lot of the heavy lifting on how to tune that kinks and so on had been done before that. So it's not brand new." }, { "start": 994.11, "end": 994.75002, "text": "So" }, { "start": 995.23001, "end": 999.1500100000001, "text": "that's why we chose one of our databases and not a brand new one." }, { "start": 999.7900099999999, "end": 1000.51001, "text": "K?" }, { "start": 1000.99, "end": 1001.87001, "text": "Alright. Thank you." }, { "start": 1002.725, "end": 1008.40501, "text": "K. Anyone else? Any questions on that or anything else at all? Okay. Miguel." }, { "start": 1009.685, "end": 1020.24, "text": "And I'll apologize again. Me and names. So for anyone I can't get on those ones, I try to read names. I mangle names. I apologize. You tell me how to call you. I try." }, { "start": 1020.56, "end": 1021.20001, "text": "Well, good." }, { "start": 1021.6, "end": 1023.36002, "text": "I think. Okay. So yeah." }, { "start": 1023.84, "end": 1028.16, "text": "Yeah. I have a related question about the same migration" }, { "start": 1028.16, "end": 1029.44, "text": "from Postgres. Sure." }, { "start": 1030.9850000000001, "end": 1032.345, "text": "The server log" }, { "start": 1032.665, "end": 1034.10501, "text": "with MariaDB," }, { "start": 1034.505, "end": 1036.905, "text": "both notes have different logs." }, { "start": 1037.385, "end": 1038.9850000000001, "text": "They are not synchronized." }, { "start": 1038.9850000000001, "end": 1041.38501, "text": "Yes. With pods with Postgres," }, { "start": 1041.785, "end": 1047.84, "text": "we will have a single one or we have two logs? Okay. Several logs remains" }, { "start": 1048.23999, "end": 1049.52, "text": "non synchronized." }, { "start": 1049.92, "end": 1052.8, "text": "Tracking table gets in one place only." }, { "start": 1053.2, "end": 1055.28, "text": "So the logs remain local." }, { "start": 1056.07999, "end": 1056.95999, "text": "Okay." }, { "start": 1056.95999, "end": 1057.76, "text": "Perfect." }, { "start": 1058.23999, "end": 1058.71999, "text": "Thank you." }, { "start": 1061.05501, "end": 1061.77501, "text": "Okay." }, { "start": 1064.575, "end": 1065.85501, "text": "What else do we have?" }, { "start": 1070.175, "end": 1072.815, "text": "I have a big group now and no one wants to talk to me." }, { "start": 1077.25, "end": 1078.45, "text": "Another question." }, { "start": 1078.76999, "end": 1080.05, "text": "Sure. Again." }, { "start": 1080.76999, "end": 1085.33, "text": "If we want to move from the standard cluster to enterprise cluster" }, { "start": 1087.09, "end": 1089.40999, "text": "from Oracle to Postgres," }, { "start": 1090.645, "end": 1091.445, "text": "It's" }, { "start": 1092.005, "end": 1096.005, "text": "procedure to do that, or we have to reinstall everything?" }, { "start": 1096.085, "end": 1097.76501, "text": "What's the best approach" }, { "start": 1098.96501, "end": 1099.845, "text": "in that scenario?" }, { "start": 1102.25998, "end": 1110.18, "text": "You want to move are you enter you're enterprise Oracle now. You want to move to enterprise Postgre or standard Postgre?" }, { "start": 1110.58, "end": 1114.9, "text": "No. At this point, we have a customer with a standard cluster using" }, { "start": 1115.46, "end": 1116.34, "text": "MariaDB." }, { "start": 1117.13998, "end": 1117.53998, "text": "That's right." }, { "start": 1118.2350000000001, "end": 1119.995, "text": "And they want to use too much." }, { "start": 1120.7949800000001, "end": 1121.435, "text": "Yeah." }, { "start": 1121.755, "end": 1125.355, "text": "That's right. Okay. To enterprise, but with Postgres." }, { "start": 1126.155, "end": 1129.195, "text": "Okay. And they want to move to Postgres" }, { "start": 1129.195, "end": 1131.035, "text": "standard or Postgres enterprise?" }, { "start": 1134.57, "end": 1141.53, "text": "I'm not so sure about that. Okay. So okay. So let's explain it like that. If they are going from" }, { "start": 1141.85, "end": 1142.73, "text": "MariaDB" }, { "start": 1142.73, "end": 1156.845, "text": "standard cluster to Postgre standard cluster, to the new modernized cluster we were just talking about, they just need to do the update in place. This will happen for them automatically. They just need to make sure all the prerequisites are done, and this will happen. You don't need to do anything special." }, { "start": 1157.085, "end": 1158.2050199999999, "text": "It's just an update." }, { "start": 1158.845, "end": 1161.64502, "text": "If they want to do to move to enterprise cluster," }, { "start": 1162.31, "end": 1167.35, "text": "my recommendation is to go the path of going to the standard Postgre first." }, { "start": 1167.99, "end": 1171.51, "text": "Because if you look on the screen I was just showing," }, { "start": 1173.1100000000001, "end": 1174.06998, "text": "see at the bottom?" }, { "start": 1174.945, "end": 1178.785, "text": "We actually once you are on this Postgres standard cluster," }, { "start": 1178.865, "end": 1186.945, "text": "we can help move you to an enterprise and move you out. So there is because it's Postgres to Postgres now. Right? Okay." }, { "start": 1186.945, "end": 1188.065, "text": "So there will be a button." }, { "start": 1188.6399999999999, "end": 1195.2, "text": "However, this will mean that they'll need to take an outage until all all of the updates and database copies and what's not happened." }, { "start": 1195.84, "end": 1200.16, "text": "So if they cannot take that, then what they need to do is to reinstall everything." }, { "start": 1200.885, "end": 1202.325, "text": "If they reinstall," }, { "start": 1202.64502, "end": 1208.325, "text": "there are two imports which are important. The XML exporting port, which case account certificates," }, { "start": 1208.325, "end": 1210.40503, "text": "you know, all of the database objects," }, { "start": 1210.725, "end": 1213.36502, "text": "will work from one to the to another." }, { "start": 1214.38, "end": 1219.02002, "text": "So they can export all the accounts, import them on the other side, everything works as expected." }, { "start": 1219.5, "end": 1220.78, "text": "System export," }, { "start": 1221.5, "end": 1223.9, "text": "which is the one on the configuration menu" }, { "start": 1227.18, "end": 1227.98, "text": "over here." }, { "start": 1228.695, "end": 1229.49503, "text": "Oops." }, { "start": 1229.655, "end": 1231.815, "text": "Yeah. My database doesn't like me." }, { "start": 1232.4550199999999, "end": 1234.295, "text": "So the server import," }, { "start": 1234.695, "end": 1241.65503, "text": "the system import export does not work because you have different clusters. So if you have things that are not in the" }, { "start": 1242.3600000000001, "end": 1244.6, "text": "so if you have server configurations" }, { "start": 1244.6, "end": 1253.16, "text": "on the setup menu or on the authentication menu and so on, you'll need to reapply them on the other side. You cannot just move them over." }, { "start": 1253.63998, "end": 1254.2, "text": "So" }, { "start": 1254.6, "end": 1256.52, "text": "that's the only thing to be careful about." }, { "start": 1257.35498, "end": 1260.875, "text": "System export works only with the same" }, { "start": 1261.91498, "end": 1263.435, "text": "server configurations?" }, { "start": 1263.995, "end": 1267.435, "text": "Same server, basically. We call it the same deployment" }, { "start": 1267.835, "end": 1271.835, "text": "because it can be used on the Doctor site as well if you have a Doctor situation." }, { "start": 1272.72998, "end": 1282.00998, "text": "But system export import is only supported as a backup mechanism on the same server. Same configuration, same version, same server, same everything." }, { "start": 1282.33, "end": 1284.97, "text": "Okay. XML import export is portable." }, { "start": 1285.37, "end": 1290.625, "text": "You can get it from one server, move it to another As long as the new server is a" }, { "start": 1291.025, "end": 1294.465, "text": "newer version or the same version, you're good to go." }, { "start": 1295.585, "end": 1296.385, "text": "Okay." }, { "start": 1298.225, "end": 1299.26498, "text": "Perfect. K. Thank you." }, { "start": 1300.58, "end": 1304.1, "text": "Jeff, you had your head up hand up a few seconds ago." }, { "start": 1304.58, "end": 1306.9, "text": "Yeah. So hey, Annie." }, { "start": 1307.1399999999999, "end": 1308.02002, "text": "So" }, { "start": 1309.38, "end": 1309.7, "text": "I" }, { "start": 1310.42, "end": 1313.62, "text": "I've asked them this question knowing that I only have" }, { "start": 1313.925, "end": 1317.445, "text": "about five minutes before I have to jump to a conflict for a little bit." }, { "start": 1319.285, "end": 1323.685, "text": "Is there they kind of in the context of best practices, is there any" }, { "start": 1324.565, "end": 1326.085, "text": "tuning guides," }, { "start": 1326.085, "end": 1328.085, "text": "parameters perhaps" } ]