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# Transcript: 1008939378
# URL: https://vimeo.com/1008939378
# Duration: 8184s (136.4 min)
[0:07] Well, good morning, everybody, and thank you so much for joining
[0:11] this morning's Ask Annie session on ST best practices.
[0:15] Just want to
[0:18] say a few things before we jump in and before I introduce Annie.
[0:23] So
[0:24] as you all know, most of you have attended these many times. This webinar is being recorded, and
[0:31] I will send out the recording link and the presentation
[0:34] after the call is completed and and I gather all the information.
[0:39] Of course, throughout the presentation,
[0:42] feel free to
[0:44] put a question, comment in the chat or raise your hand and
[0:49] raise your question.
[0:50] Annie is more than happy to answer whatever you need.
[0:56] One quick thing I wanted to mention is that we have announced our Axe Way Summit for 2025.
[1:01] Very excited about that. It's gonna be in Austin, Texas this time,
[1:05] and it's a little earlier this year, so March
[1:08] 2526.
[1:10] And so registration for that will begin next week. So please be on the lookout for that invitation,
[1:17] but at least you can kind of mark your calendars and and be prepared for that. We're very excited as you hopefully have all attended our summits in the past. This is just the North America one. We'll have the ones in Europe announced soon too as well.
[1:31] But for those of you that have not been fortunate to attend the summits,
[1:35] great, great session for you to interact with your peers
[1:39] and,
[1:40] Axway team,
[1:42] our solution expo center staff, and and, just two
[1:46] full days of just great interaction and informative sessions and,
[1:51] our our executive team in in in attendance. So, anyway, we'd love for you to attend. So please
[1:58] be on the lookout for that registration.
[2:02] And if you have any questions on that, feel free to email me,
[2:05] and I'll be glad to get whatever you need.
[2:09] Another quick thing I just wanna mention too is that we
[2:14] have a lot of these customer hosted user group sessions, the in person ones. And
[2:20] here are just a sample of some of the some of our customers that have have hosted in the past. So we would love to come to you.
[2:28] And this is an opportunity for you don't get you don't have to travel. You can just have us come to you. We do everything. You just provide the meeting room, and we take it from there. We come in. We'll bring a we'll cater in a light breakfast and a lunch.
[2:42] And
[2:42] Annie and our team will be there to present to your team and other customers that
[2:49] can attend as well
[2:51] provided, know, you're okay with that. So if you have any questions on that and would like more information or
[2:59] can pass it along to somebody that might make that decision if it's not yourself,
[3:03] feel free to email me and let me know because we would love to do that. And it's really a a fun way to interact and get that in person
[3:12] interaction. So
[3:15] without oh, and then lastly,
[3:18] as a reminder, and this will be in the presentation as well, our online collaboration tools are there for you.
[3:25] So you'll
[3:26] be able to click on any one of the links to get information on our user groups, our roadmap,
[3:32] Q and A forms, all of that wonderful information is all right there at your fingertips. So that will be in the presentation I send out.
[3:39] So if you have any questions, you know, obviously, you can refer back to those.
[3:44] So without further ado,
[3:47] here's Annie.
[3:50] Good morning. Good afternoon,
[3:52] everyone.
[3:54] A couple of housekeeping items before we kick it off.
[3:59] As usual, any question is welcome as long as it's secure transport or something around it.
[4:05] If you have a note, you want to share your experience, you have follow-up question on someone else's question,
[4:12] don't just wait in line. Just unmute or chat
[4:16] so that we can keep the discussion flowing a little bit. Of course, we can return to the question later again,
[4:22] but don't hesitate
[4:23] to just unmute yourself and chime in while someone has a question when we're on discussion if you have something on the same topic. If it's a different topic,
[4:33] then we'll get to it in a little bit.
[4:35] So the idea of this meeting is to be collaborative.
[4:39] I can't pronounce that one yet this morning.
[4:43] So the more I listen hear from you, the better for me, and I really appreciate when people chime in to share their own experience with the topics we're talking about.
[4:52] With that being said,
[4:55] if you feel better, more comfortable typing instead of talking, feel free to do that. I'm monitoring the chat. I have a live server as usual. This time, updated to the August release.
[5:07] And
[5:09] that's about it on the introduction part, I think.
[5:13] For the ones that have never been here, I didn't see any names. I don't know. But if there are anyone new, I'm Annie Yotua. I work out from the product team these days,
[5:22] and I've been an MFT architect for a while. I've been working with ST for nineteen years now.
[5:29] So I've been allowed.
[5:31] And with that, who wants to kick it off today?
[5:39] And that will be probably the most silent part of the conversation until someone decides they have a question
[5:45] and is not too shy to ask.
[5:57] Morning, Annie. This is Edie with the Franchise Tax Board. Hey.
[6:01] I'll kick us off.
[6:03] So we use
[6:05] it's a question about
[6:06] advanced route and
[6:09] email notifications
[6:11] Okay. Advanced route. And
[6:14] then we configure the user bar
[6:17] for
[6:18] for this
[6:20] on the on the settings page.
[6:23] Now I know I think, like, last year,
[6:27] the user bar attributes
[6:29] showed up in the
[6:33] transfer sites.
[6:35] Yep. And so I I I just
[6:39] tested it a couple times, wasn't able to achieve it. But I'm wondering
[6:44] if we use the user bar
[6:48] in the transfer site,
[6:50] will will a notification
[6:52] be a delivery notification be sent
[6:56] just for that transfer site?
[6:59] Does that make sense?
[7:01] Yeah. It does. And the answer is it will depend on how you write your expressions. So let me just jump on the server very quickly
[7:10] so you can see what I'm talking about.
[7:12] K. Hold
[7:15] on. Too many screens open.
[7:17] Let me let me know when you see my screen.
[7:21] I can see it. Okay.
[7:24] So
[7:25] when you send the notification,
[7:27] you are usually saying it, I'll just open a random route,
[7:31] either on the route or on the template. Oh, sorry. Either on the route or on the package. Right? That's correct. So so are those yours on the route or on the package?
[7:45] So
[7:47] what we're what we currently our standard is on the settings page
[7:51] and then
[7:54] and then we put it here in the route.
[7:57] In the route itself. Okay. Let me go into the route. Yeah. Here in the route. Yes.
[8:02] So Yes. Here so here is what will happen.
[8:06] If this route executes
[8:08] or,
[8:09] you know, either failure, success, or triggering, whatever you had set up,
[8:14] if you had checked in
[8:17] and there is a valid mail here, valid email address of some type, either as a variable or hard coded, it will send the mail.
[8:27] So it doesn't care so if you are using the flow parameter inside inside of a transfer side, it is after it called inside of the step.
[8:36] We don't know that at this point. So by the time we get into notifications,
[8:41] at this point, all we care about is this
[8:44] did the condition for this route run?
[8:46] Mhmm.
[8:47] Or is it triggering? Or so is it triggering at the beginning of the route, success failure at the end of the route? But it always tied to the condition.
[8:55] So if it's always, then the triggering mail will always go as long as the mail is valid.
[9:00] If it's expression, it will evaluate. But the point is if you get into that route for execution,
[9:06] regardless if any steps
[9:09] get run,
[9:10] you'll still have the triggering one because the route triggered even if not it happened. Right? Right. The success failure will be depending on what happens inside of the route.
[9:21] But
[9:22] unless you use the same flow parameter here and it's empty and then there is nowhere to send, so you'll see an error and no mail
[9:30] Mhmm. Then that's the only case when it won't send based on the variable.
[9:37] Okay.
[9:38] If I understood the question and what you're explaining because I I think I know what you're saying, but we cannot type to the type to the sites because the modifications are on the route level one step behind.
[9:52] Okay. So what I'm hearing so
[9:55] my use case is
[9:58] I'm wanting I'm wanting the route to send a
[10:04] successful notification
[10:06] based on the the
[10:10] email address
[10:11] and the user bar that is in the transfer site that is initiate
[10:17] that Yeah.
[10:19] That will not work. Okay. Probably.
[10:22] And the reason is because
[10:24] during at this point, at the end, you could have had multiple center partners. So which site is that?
[10:31] And you can have a site coming from the pool as well. Now I understand the question. You see, you're in the wrong place for that one. Yeah. Okay. Because the site itself is only relevant for the center partner step. And what happens if you have three of them?
[10:48] Right? Mhmm.
[10:50] Well, yeah, that's kinda why that's kinda why I was trying to place
[10:54] the user bar in the app the the email address in the specific
[11:00] transfer site.
[11:01] So only the only files that
[11:04] are delivered using that one transfer site gets the notification.
[11:09] But if that's not Yeah. Understood. Okay. So in this case, the only thing you can do is to create separate route for each of the sites.
[11:18] Mhmm. So that and and, you know, now with the new ST that doesn't create a sandbox so if it is just a send to partner and you don't have a transformation before that, this is now not such a problem
[11:31] because remember, we don't create the sandbox anymore for everything. If you don't have a transformation, if you just have send to partner, there will be no sandbox for this file. So the old performance problem with multiple routes was a problem
[11:43] is not a problem anymore.
[11:46] Okay.
[11:48] As long as you are
[11:49] it was updated more than a year ago, so I think you're already on the new new ish.
[11:55] Okay.
[11:56] But because back in the days, I would never advise you to create multiple routes for each of them because multiple sandboxes.
[12:03] We talked about that multiple times. Right? But now between the fact that now the steps and
[12:10] the condition the steps themselves can also be conditional and
[12:14] the routes are conditional, and now we don't create the sandboxes when they are not needed,
[12:20] that might be a viable option if all you are doing is sent to partner.
[12:24] But on the other hand, I can understand that if you have a lot of conditions and I know your setup,
[12:28] that might not be feasible. At which point,
[12:33] I would say that your best choice might actually be to go for Sentinel.
[12:38] And I don't know if you have Sentinel because
[12:41] unlike the routes, at which point we don't know who is sending, when we send the outbound event to Sentinel, we are inside of the outbound itself. So the transfer site variables actually can be sent to Sentinel
[12:54] if you set it up.
[12:57] Okay. So on Sentinel,
[12:59] let me get I know you don't have it. We're in the process of it. So Hey. Very soon. Yeah. Over
[13:05] here at the bottom, there is a mapping mapping rule. Rule. And here, you can add the trans the the track the transfer site variable
[13:13] and send it to a field. You need to find the empty field in Sentinel and so on. If you cannot get that, that get get support or community to help. But the point is that what will happen is that the column will be filled with the email when it exists,
[13:27] and, otherwise, it will be empty. And you can have a correlation rule on the Sentinel server
[13:32] that will be sending the mail for this specific file
[13:36] only if the mail is there for it. So that will achieve exactly what you want and pull it out from SDN. You don't need to redo your routes
[13:45] because of the conditions you have.
[13:47] Okay.
[13:48] Okay. Thank you. We'll explore that when when you can get stood up. Yeah. And and that's one of the things that when people start talking mail notifications,
[13:56] always get to that because people forget that, especially if you already have said, you know, in the house, and I know not everyone does. But if you have it, it's actually that's a perfect usage for it.
[14:08] You don't need to cram anything everything into SD. Yes. SD can do some of the heavy lifting, but if your processing will get overly complicated just for mail notifications,
[14:18] you know what? Find a different way.
[14:21] Right? So Right. So for your use case where you have a conditional
[14:26] step yes. And I know that you're routing based on names. Right? You're still doing that.
[14:32] Routing
[14:34] Files based on file names.
[14:37] Not not in every case. Okay.
[14:40] So
[14:41] So so so take this in that that in a way that in some cases, might be able to redo the route a little bit, you know, those separate routes. But if you need to create three, five, seven, ten routes, it doesn't make sense. So explore the other option.
[14:56] Right.
[14:57] Okay. Okay. Thank you.
[15:00] Absolutely.
[15:01] An another
[15:03] so and I was thinking now if there is another way to do it, but the problem still remains that we cannot get to the site from anywhere else. Because you can do a set flow parameter, but we have no way to reach out for the site because we don't know who the site is yet at this point.
[15:19] So
[15:21] okay.
[15:23] Okay.
[15:25] Who is next?
[15:30] Well, I can I I can go next?
[15:33] Sure. I'm Venila. I'm I'm
[15:37] using Axway gateway at the moment, and we are in the process of migrating gateway to secure transport. So we are not active users of secure transport yet. But we yeah. I'm having couple of questions
[15:49] regarding like,
[15:53] we are going to use transition portal to do the migration from gateway to
[16:00] secure transport,
[16:02] but we want to have all the configuration
[16:06] models
[16:06] and decision rules on the
[16:10] flow manager instead of secure transport.
[16:13] So I just I
[16:16] just want to understand
[16:18] if that's possible or if there is
[16:21] any
[16:22] other way to do that.
[16:25] Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's a very loaded question. First of all, welcome to SecureTransport.
[16:30] We're fun people.
[16:32] Thank you. So
[16:35] here is a couple of things I need to mention here.
[16:39] So Flow Manager,
[16:42] if you want all the possible combinations in Flow Manager, that is kinda sort of possible
[16:48] Uh-huh. Because
[16:50] it is a little restrictive on what it can do with ST.
[16:54] So
[16:55] talk to the,
[16:57] PSO team you're working with. They should be able to provide you a list of what is available.
[17:02] On the secure transport server itself, it's a little bit a different story. So ST is more of a tool than a server. That's how I try try to explain to people. There is so many combinations
[17:13] of possibilities
[17:14] of what can be done that there is absolutely no way someone to provide you all possible patterns.
[17:21] Mhmm.
[17:22] So in something as simple as PGP decryption only, I probably can do 300 ways to do it,
[17:29] you know, with different options.
[17:31] So it's it's broad,
[17:34] and it has a lot of ways to configure things so that they are usable for the user. So it's more like a toolkit
[17:42] that you just assemble together.
[17:45] And some of the easy cases, obviously, are pretty straightforward to set, but there is so many check boxes all over the place that the more steps you need into a process,
[17:55] the more it branches.
[17:59] So for example, there are no, models or decision rules,
[18:03] defined in SecureTransport. We cannot define those in SecureTransport.
[18:06] Am I right?
[18:08] You can
[18:09] on individual
[18:11] route base. So when you're building a route for what to happen with a specific file, specific group of files, and so on, you build the decision tree for that specific model.
[18:22] But you can build
[18:23] a enormous
[18:25] number of models.
[18:26] So we don't restrict you what you can build. Flow manager restricts a little bit because it's a separate UI, a separate API that uses the APIs of ST. It actually restricts
[18:37] some of the possibilities,
[18:39] so the precision trees there are smaller.
[18:42] But the the whole so so the two things important for ST because you're a new user. One of them is that we are not a listening service. Instead, we're event based,
[18:53] which means that when the file arrives,
[18:55] we're not just leaving it somewhere and us listening if there is a file, but our protocols communicate to our transaction manager, which is the business server, basically, and tell it, here is the file for you. Go do something with it. At which point, the transaction manager go against the configuration,
[19:14] finds, oh, this is in this folder from this account.
[19:18] This means that this is the rule set to follow. It's called the subscription.
[19:22] Inside of the subscription is the route. And the route is actually the business rule, like, which says, for this file,
[19:29] if it is a ZIP file, unzip it and then send it to someone.
[19:33] Or for this file, always send it to someone. Or it can be overly complicated with a lot of ifs and, you know, like a flow chart.
[19:42] Okay. So we can still define a route here
[19:45] as in Yes. A gateway. We call it decision
[19:48] model.
[19:49] This
[19:50] Yes. Like that.
[19:51] And
[19:52] what about the existing
[19:54] flows we have currently in gateway?
[19:58] How can you map those existing flows
[20:02] to the
[20:04] secure transport?
[20:05] Is there
[20:06] uh-huh. Go ahead. Sorry. So
[20:10] because there is no decision rules here, so we can't map it
[20:15] one on one. So how can we handle this situation?
[20:20] Are you working with our services team on that, or are you trying on your own?
[20:25] No. We are working with Eric Tom Thomas, if you know him. Yeah. He's the best on this one. So so, basically, the whole point of the transition portal
[20:35] is that it will data mine through the decision trees in gateway
[20:40] and present them in a way that is
[20:43] closer to how flow manager requires them because a transition portal uses flow manager to goes into ST. It's just how they designed it.
[20:51] So from your perspective, what will happen is that the transition portal will consume your decision trees
[20:58] and will data mine them to figure out what exactly you're doing inside of them. It will extract the relevant information and do a translation transition, that's why it's called transition portal,
[21:09] into
[21:10] what will be routes in ST.
[21:13] Okay. Okay. Some of that will be automatic. Some of that Eric will do on his own. That that's why I asked you if you're working with someone because,
[21:22] technically speaking, probably someone can do it on their own.
[21:26] Mhmm. But in my experience, it's a lot better if you get our our services team to lend you a hand because it's not one on one relationship.
[21:35] The two products have a very different way of thinking about users and transfers and things.
[21:41] Mhmm. So transitioning
[21:43] is sometimes a little weird.
[21:46] But
[21:48] you're not going to lose what you have at the moment. That's why you're going to transition portal. And
[21:53] most of some of percentages,
[21:55] I don't know what depending on in some customers, 90% of the flows of the decision trees translate into into routes cleanly. In some cases, it's 50%.
[22:06] You know? It really depends on what exactly you are doing.
[22:09] But that's not something that you need to figure on your own. One thing you need to find out on your own, though, is how to build new decision trees
[22:18] going forward
[22:19] in the new thinking.
[22:21] Because
[22:22] when you change products between even though it's actually in tax way
[22:26] Mhmm. Both products came from different
[22:29] purchases,
[22:30] different companies that actually bought through the years. So the technology inside of them is different. The logic is different.
[22:38] Okay. So it it's a little bit of a
[22:41] you know, I
[22:43] it's a it's it's a big change. So if you and the team that will be working with ST haven't enrolled into training yet, it I would strongly recommend it, the admin class.
[22:55] Where where where can we enroll?
[22:58] So it is on the university page, university.xue.com.
[23:03] There are some free modules you can go through for the very basic stuff, but there is also paid training that the team can enroll into and so on, you know, if the company has budget.
[23:13] But especially for the basic stuff, we do have a lot of free videos.
[23:17] So log in on university.xway.com
[23:21] Uh-huh. With your xway credentials,
[23:24] and just look at what is available for secure transport,
[23:27] and it will give you some idea. It it I am pretty what we have for free for sure is how to set up your first transfers, explaining all the different objects and things like that. That should be very useful for someone just coming into the product.
[23:40] Okay. Yeah. And and
[23:43] use Eric.
[23:44] That's the other thing, you know, because you use so once you look through those, you have questions, but that's why you have services as well. So I'm pretty sure he won't mind answering a couple of questions to get you on the right track. So
[23:58] and you wanted to ask another question. Sorry.
[24:01] Yeah. I I know many,
[24:04] yeah, many of the users has already been migrated to secure transport.
[24:08] And I would like to understand from your experience,
[24:13] how can we approach this whole migration
[24:16] of
[24:17] flows from gateway to ST?
[24:20] Because
[24:21] is it, like, a two year, three year process, or is
[24:26] there any other way to do, like, a big bang
[24:30] thingy? So how was it when you are seeing
[24:35] with other clients?
[24:36] It it really depends on the complexity of your gateway. That's, again,
[24:42] gateway,
[24:43] even though it is it was a little bit more structured than ST, it still had a lot of options. So in some cases, I've seen people using only two or three decision trees,
[24:53] you know,
[24:54] same types of them. So it can be a big bank on everything.
[24:58] But if you have a lot of diverse things and you need to move fast, sometimes it makes sense to actually isolate some cases and move slowly through time. So we've seen it any each way. We've had people that have five partners on gateway. You have people with 5,000
[25:12] partners.
[25:13] You know? Yes. So Yeah. It's
[25:16] it's one of those things that I cannot put a number on it or a plan on it without seeing it.
[25:23] Eric will be in a lot better position to actually tell you what
[25:27] he sees after he sees the data.
[25:30] What I would say is that the chances of that being a
[25:34] bank approach tomorrow,
[25:36] you know, big bank tomorrow is slim to none.
[25:40] But will it be two years? Hopefully not. I don't know how big your installation is.
[25:45] So quite big.
[25:47] Yeah. Yeah. And More than
[25:49] yeah. 10,000 flows.
[25:51] Yeah. Actually, 10. Well,
[25:54] I would say a year, but or more, but who knows? Eric can do magic sometimes. It depends, you know, if you have 10,000 flows, but 9,300
[26:03] of them are basically the same flow with different endpoints.
[26:07] Yep. You know? That that's a different conversation from 10,000 flows where everyone had been doing whatever they wanted to do. And that's one conversation I usually want like to have with customers that are just starting on a product.
[26:20] Think about standards in the new server.
[26:23] Think about what you want to allow and what you don't want to allow just because the server can do it. Can you support 10,000
[26:30] very different flows
[26:31] with your support team? Probably not. So you might want even though the server can do it, you might want to ask yourself, do I want to allow them to do that? Or do you want to lock them into specific use cases
[26:43] and then just
[26:45] move them
[26:47] you know, do exceptions and documentation on specific case or something like that?
[26:52] Okay. Yep. Yep. Back to what I see. When you have a server as a tool with a lot of options, now you have the problem,
[27:00] I can, should I? And who are you going to support all of that?
[27:05] So Yep.
[27:07] Clear. Thank you, Yona.
[27:09] Absolutely.
[27:12] And
[27:13] other from that, I don't know if you saw, but we they did they did a virtual user group about the transition portal and moving from gateway to secure transport a few months ago, but it was in French.
[27:25] I don't know how much French you speak.
[27:28] No. I I speak I don't speak French. So Yeah. Me neither,
[27:33] unfortunately. But
[27:34] I I actually took a so it is in the community portal under user groups. And even though it's in French, I actually looked at their slides.
[27:42] A lot of the slides are actually in English.
[27:45] Even if you don't
[27:47] Mhmm. Yes.
[27:49] If Lucy can find it, if not, I'll find it later.
[27:52] If the user Lucy, if you can look at the user group list. If not, we'll send it in the mail after that.
[27:58] Yes.
[28:00] It's
[28:02] you don't need to listen to it. But as I said, a lot of the slides, especially towards the end with the more technical stuff of how king these kinks are happening are in English.
[28:11] Okay. Okay. So even if you look through the PowerPoint, that might be useful.
[28:16] Yeah.
[28:17] And give you some You would help me, though. Yeah. And give you some help in yeah.
[28:22] Uh-huh. Okay. Sorry. Sorry for interrupting you. Sorry. No. No. I I do the same. So I apologize.
[28:29] I was just going to say it will give you some talking points with Eric as well.
[28:33] Yep. We are having the workshop on October 3
[28:37] together with Eric.
[28:39] So
[28:41] we are mostly going to discuss
[28:43] the various possibilities.
[28:45] And is it possible to do a kind of
[28:49] hands on on the test environment to see
[28:52] if transition portal works for us in real time, or it is it is not
[28:58] possible to do it in a day?
[29:02] That will be a question for Eric. Depend I don't know how it is set up, how they set up that, all that. It's operational.
[29:11] And that's the kind of questions you can ask him.
[29:15] Okay. I I suspect even before October.
[29:18] I suspect if you can if you send him a mail now, probably he'll respond or something like that.
[29:22] Yes. Okay. Thank you, Orna. Maybe if you can send me the slide deck for the transition portal, it would be helpful.
[29:30] Yes. As I said, we'll try we'll get it either in the mail
[29:34] as the follow-up. So after this meeting, Lucy will send the mail with the recording from this one, and we'll include the link to to the other one so you can grab it unless we manage to do it during the meeting depending on who's you and what. So okay? Okay. Okay. Thank you.
[29:51] Absolutely.
[29:52] Okay. Who is next?
[29:58] Silent group.
[30:00] If you haven't looked at the August release, do you know what we got back?
[30:06] Bulk re yeah.
[30:08] Bulk resubmit,
[30:10] now on the UI.
[30:12] So if you update to August, you can resubmit
[30:17] more than one transfer at the same time from the UI.
[30:22] I know a few people have been asking through the years. Didn't I just make someone's day?
[30:28] Oh, come on. You're not an easy crowd today.
[30:33] Okay. Who is next?
[30:36] Hello, Juana. That's a good news, to be honest. I I was just in another meeting, so I I wouldn't suspect and
[30:43] that was the news. That's someone will like that.
[30:48] So And we
[30:50] did we did we do too. We we talked about that and kinda celebrated
[30:55] amongst
[30:55] our team.
[30:57] Good.
[30:58] The only the only restriction is it need they need to be visible on the screen to be resubmitted together. So you'll need to get them on the same screen,
[31:06] which natively restricts it to about a 100, so but which is okay.
[31:10] But, yeah, nice news.
[31:13] The other big news on this release is about ZGO and the fact that we actually now support MS SQL
[31:20] for zero downtime
[31:23] on the beta there or not beta anymore.
[31:27] And for the ones using folder monitor, we did some performance changes, but they're only on the initial load up. So it loads a little faster on startup.
[31:40] The other thing, by the way, especially for people with repository encryption,
[31:45] and please read your readmis and so on, but just highlight again,
[31:49] is that if you're using repository encryption,
[31:53] as you know,
[31:55] the loading of the list of few files for a user when the list was longer was taking a little or takes a little longer because we need to recalculate
[32:04] sizes properly.
[32:06] There there is an improvement for that now.
[32:09] So there is a new parameter that can be set. So if you use repository encryption that you have big directories
[32:15] with long with a lot of files, look at the new parameter
[32:19] that can be set to get your your users file to files to load up to fifty first percent faster.
[32:29] And that these are the busy the big things. Of course, the other thing is that we actually have the the ability to store
[32:37] the secret file of ST inside a of a vault tunnel.
[32:41] This is part of our zero
[32:44] zero
[32:45] zero trust initiative.
[32:47] So long term, we want to be to make it available
[32:51] for you to store all of the private details in a vault somewhere and not inside of the software.
[32:58] And the step one or step x or whatever you want to call it, the secret file now can be externalized.
[33:04] It doesn't need to sit on the server itself.
[33:09] And for the ones that are too new to know what the secret file is, these days we call it the tag file.
[33:15] This is the file that you exchange between the cluster nodes, then this is the file that we use as a secret
[33:21] key to encrypt anything in the database or on the file system anytime we need to encrypt, not for repository encryption, but for the operational.
[33:31] And this is the highlights of the new release that came out a few weeks ago.
[33:37] So
[33:38] okay.
[33:40] Any other questions?
[33:44] Or what do you want me to show you? I have a live server.
[33:51] You and I there's no other question.
[33:55] I have been wondering if
[33:57] well, when we set up a new connection with the new partner
[34:01] Mhmm. Especially when we are talking about basic transfers,
[34:06] the one with the basic protocol,
[34:08] sometimes
[34:09] we want to activate the verbose mode. Meanwhile,
[34:13] the only
[34:14] way I do it is that I go to the log four g parameters and activate the verbose, but that will activate
[34:21] the verbose for
[34:23] all the accounts, I would say,
[34:26] that uses this protocol.
[34:28] And I is there any way
[34:32] to
[34:33] have access to the Verbos logs
[34:36] without affecting
[34:38] the global, let's say, configuration?
[34:42] I I
[34:43] understand the question, but,
[34:45] no. We don't have a control for that. So it's all or nothing. Either you enable it for everyone,
[34:53] and it's on the protocol level or on the team level or the package level or no one at all. You cannot just say, I want it for this transfer. Now
[35:02] there is one thing that you have for the transfer. As long as at least the connection succeeds and you get the the file as long as you have a tracking table entry,
[35:13] the protocol level commands will be in the tracking table.
[35:18] So
[35:19] I usually use that for troubleshooting.
[35:21] But what you're asking for is a little more than that, and we don't have that. So you might want to open an idea, actually.
[35:30] I would say go and open an idea into the ideas portal about that. I see. Yeah.
[35:36] What you want is to say enable the bug for this transfer specifically,
[35:41] which we don't have control
[35:43] for.
[35:44] We just don't
[35:45] our debug is only based on the Log four j stuff.
[35:48] And in Log four j, obviously, you cannot do it that way. In order to allow it on specific transfer user
[35:54] subscription,
[35:56] we'll need the control to be built, and we don't have one.
[36:00] Okay. I see. But because just there is some cases where
[36:04] Mhmm. There is no logs when there are some sort of certain
[36:08] type of errors.
[36:10] Yeah. Sometimes even if we receive the connection, they just
[36:14] that there is an IP connection but no logs and then drops
[36:18] without reason.
[36:19] And and I just last question is that, can we
[36:24] benefit from Sentinel
[36:26] on this case? I see that in Sentinel, I mean, you can get
[36:30] more Not not not no. It's actually less for that. So
[36:35] all that ST sends to Sentinel is the tracking locks the tracking tape. So we send the events,
[36:43] but not all the information from them. So all you know, these additional locks, the protocol commands that are in the tracking table of ST, those don't don't go to Sentinel at all. So Sentinel will
[36:56] never have more information about the failure than ST.
[37:00] Can
[37:01] be useful for things what we talked about earlier, mail notifications that cannot be set up cleanly
[37:06] or for
[37:08] connecting the dots between inbound and outbound, things like that.
[37:12] But when we're talking troubleshooting and error messages, ST does not send locks unlike CFT.
[37:17] CFT sends both the locks and the tracking information to Sentinel,
[37:22] but ST only sends tracking information without locks. So we will send just
[37:28] when there is a failure, we'll send just a single message that says
[37:32] transfer failed, you know, whatever the last message is. Yes. Connection refused, connection closed, something like that. But we are not going to send all of the previous information or any debug clock or anything like that. And it's more of a the reason is more operational than anything. The sheer number of transfers, if we try to send everything to Sentinel, kill everything.
[37:54] So I see. Yeah. I do agree.
[37:57] But we are looking into options to allow more things to go to Sentinel, and, again,
[38:02] open the idea to allow the book mode to be enabled for specific transfers
[38:08] account, whatever you need in this case.
[38:11] Okay. I will open a I'm
[38:13] will open that from the idea for sure. Okay. Yes. Because
[38:18] as we say as Lucy mentioned earlier and as we had said on earlier calls,
[38:23] our product manager needs to know what customers need, and that's the fastest way to give them an idea. Will it happen? I cannot promise.
[38:33] I I I I find it a great idea,
[38:36] but I don't know if we have the bandwidth for it, if the technology will allow it to build it easily
[38:42] because, you know
[38:43] I see. Okay.
[38:45] This is the kind of stuff yeah. Go ahead. Sorry.
[38:48] No. Sorry. I I I dropped a bit. But, yeah, I I see. It's like the zero downtime
[38:53] idea.
[38:54] That's when it's good.
[38:56] So
[38:57] Yeah. Yeah. So maybe it's gonna go this way. Yeah. But part of the pro part of the challenge with something like that, building it for transfer, is that usually if you want something like that, it needs to be in the
[39:09] during the design phase of the product, and it had never been there.
[39:14] So they'll need to refactor a lot of things to enable it. But who knows? They might have some ideas how to do it. So ask.
[39:21] Okay.
[39:22] Thank you very much.
[39:24] Absolutely.
[39:25] Okay.
[39:26] Who is that next?
[39:36] No questions?
[39:40] You don't have any questions, I will show you some things if you haven't looked them.
[39:45] Because for a change, I have a fully updated server.
[39:48] Speaking of updates, I do have a quick question. I saw in the that a warning
[39:53] that with the I guess, the September version here in a couple weeks, it'll include the database upgrade for, like, our edges
[40:01] into, like, Postgres instead of Maria.
[40:04] Do you have any
[40:06] suggestions or warnings or best practices or anything that we should take heed before we would deploy?
[40:14] Well,
[40:15] make your database as small as possible, aka don't leave three weeks of locks inside of it. So slowly lower the number of days you are keeping and
[40:25] let ST clean more than usual
[40:28] because the smaller the database, the faster we'll update. That's one thing. You know? Less
[40:33] less things to move, faster goes faster.
[40:36] The biggest the biggest difference for anyone will be that the PostgreSQL model is not just a change in the database, we're but changing the model.
[40:45] At the moment
[40:47] and if you're
[40:48] so at the moment, every server or every edge that is using MariaDB
[40:53] is talking to its own database, and then on the application level, we're replicating the databases so we have copies of the databases. Right? But it's on the application level.
[41:03] With the postgre,
[41:04] we're changing that to a database level, and the secondaries don't work out from their own database. They connect to the primary database,
[41:14] which means that we need different kinds of connections. So when you go to the September release, if we release that in September, that's the expectation.
[41:22] But, again, it haven't been committed yet. They're still working. If there are problems, it might be delayed a month. I don't think so, but things happen.
[41:30] But
[41:31] before you update,
[41:32] make sure to read the release notes and to ensure that the ports are open between the two servers, two edges, whatever you're setting up. This applies to the edges only if they are set up to synchronize between each other. And now there is a better reason to do it than in the old system
[41:50] because of the single database.
[41:52] The the update in the new new model is now on the database level between the two Postgres servers.
[42:01] So that's a difference.
[42:03] Sorry. Okay.
[42:05] Other from that, it should be almost invisible
[42:09] for most customers,
[42:11] short of you doing if you haven't done anything stupid on your edges or servers, and I'll call it stupid because, you know, if you're not supposed to do it, it's stupid.
[42:20] But as long as you had followed our rules and had left your MariaDB on its own and you haven't tried to
[42:27] play DBA on it,
[42:30] you should not even notice the change besides the fact that it will take a little longer to update, and then at the end, there will be a different service running.
[42:38] It should be almost invisible.
[42:40] So if you remember when we changed from MySQL to Maria way back when, it should be very similar. But again, the change of the model is what will catch most people unawares because of the port change and how it works.
[42:55] Okay. Sounds good. Currently, for our back ends, we have a four node cluster using an external Oracle database.
[43:03] And our cluster is not particularly
[43:05] busy,
[43:06] so I suspect that we don't really need four nodes.
[43:10] So we had even talked about the idea
[43:13] that should we go back to
[43:15] a standard cluster with three nodes running this new database?
[43:20] No.
[43:21] No? Okay.
[43:23] And the reason is pretty straightforward.
[43:25] So
[43:26] the
[43:27] will it work? So
[43:29] if you move to standard cluster with three nodes, first of all, three nodes standard cluster, alter new model is always more unstable than a two node one
[43:39] just because you have a single database running on the same node where the
[43:45] primary data bay primary TM is also running,
[43:48] and you cannot move that. So you have the two big engines, the database and the primary database, the one running schedulers, folder monitors, you know, the big jobs running on the same physical server.
[44:01] That's what you are going away from with enterprise cluster. You split those two.
[44:07] With the old model or the new model of standard cluster, those two stay together. So you have the primary database,
[44:14] and it's actually the new model will be even worse than the old model for that because not only now you have the database and the primary server itself on the same box, but you have all the secondary servers talking to the same database. So this database will be a lot busier.
[44:28] So even though we'll support t node clusters,
[44:31] the recommendation will stay as it had always been.
[44:35] As if you need to add a third node, this should be a prelude to moving to enterprise cluster.
[44:41] Okay.
[44:42] Good. Thanks. Which doesn't mean that there aren't cases where people might want to downgrade, but especially because you're coming down from four.
[44:50] You if you go to a three node, you have probably
[44:54] server and a half to work with compared to what you have now.
[44:58] So it will be, like, one third of what you have now or thereabouts,
[45:02] which
[45:03] I honestly
[45:05] if you already have the external database
[45:07] and unless you have really budgetary restrictions and they really want to, you know, misbehave,
[45:14] I the enterprise cluster is still the way to go. Plus this way, you'll have ZDU,
[45:19] you'll have all of the new things. All all the new toys coming are only full with enterprise cluster anyway.
[45:26] So
[45:28] Okay. Sounds good. We'll stay put. Yeah. I and and I really, really don't like to put the date. So even if you have very little load, what happened during peak time? Because that's what will kill your cluster.
[45:41] Right?
[45:42] It's
[45:43] having the database and the primary on the same note is just for small environments. That that's that's
[45:48] what it is.
[45:51] Yep. Yeah. Not a problem. Yeah. The the load wasn't really the reasoning. It was, you know, lack of confidence in the Oracle DBAs
[45:58] and trying to remove another dependency that can break and,
[46:02] you know, network between
[46:04] secure transport and that Oracle and firewalls and, you know, all that other nonsense that can go wrong. So that was why we were contemplating it, but it it sounds like we're better off just, you know, staying where we are.
[46:16] And, again, you might want to start doing pros and cons.
[46:21] It's not just about licensing licensing or or anything like that. And I understand that you have other operational
[46:27] issues and, you know, wanderings.
[46:29] Maybe you can look into changing from Oracle to Postgre or something like that. Are you thinking about going to the cloud at some point?
[46:36] Yeah. But, you know, cost is always the concern there.
[46:40] Yes.
[46:41] So
[46:42] here is the the another point to put on the table. If you're thinking about cloud in the cloud, enterprise cluster is a lot better than standard
[46:51] because we and we do support the RDSs and
[46:55] hosted solutions.
[46:56] But, also,
[46:57] you know that our cloud edition aka containers is coming downstream next year. It's already in beta.
[47:04] So
[47:05] this will only be available with an enterprise cluster license
[47:10] or enterprise pack as we call it.
[47:13] Gotcha. Okay. And
[47:15] anyone that thinks about going to containers at any time will need to switch to external database anyway because containers will never ever
[47:23] carry their own database. It you know, containers and database inside of them just doesn't jibe.
[47:30] So there is that.
[47:34] K. Sounds good. Thank you. Absolutely.
[47:39] And,
[47:40] Mark, just make sure that when you're updating that and you know that, but I'll still say that make sure that your edges and server stay on the same streaming level.
[47:50] So same patch, same update,
[47:52] especially when you change the database
[47:54] because
[47:55] I a lot of people the reason I am mentioning it because I got at least two mails this week asking me
[48:01] if in September they can update the enterprise clusters but leave the edges on the old model, and unfortunately, the answer is no.
[48:09] If you go to September, you'll need to go both ways. So
[48:13] okay.
[48:14] Okay. Thanks.
[48:16] Okay.
[48:17] What else do we have?
[48:29] Okay. While people are being shy, had you looked at our
[48:34] better
[48:35] route packages,
[48:37] and had you played with those?
[48:42] And
[48:43] if you haven't,
[48:45] let me open one that is a little bit more
[48:49] interesting.
[48:54] So one of the nice things we added finally is that
[48:58] we tell you how many routes are using it.
[49:04] Man, that one is not interesting.
[49:06] I don't have any interesting ones.
[49:08] But if you haven't been looking into the better route packages, they go against the same database as the standard ones. What can be not everything can be done through them yet, but some things can, and we are actively soliciting
[49:22] feedback
[49:24] for the beta
[49:26] and for what you're seeing and if you are liking what you're seeing when you're building new packages and so on and so forth,
[49:34] and if you think that things need to go in a different direction.
[49:37] The idea of this new UI is to be more intuitive,
[49:42] less
[49:43] likely for you to forget for half of the pieces it need to start over.
[49:47] You know, raise your hand if you've never done that.
[49:50] And
[49:53] and that's about it
[49:57] on this one. So
[50:02] questions? What do you want me to show you, or are we having a short summer meeting again? Well, not summer, but still kinda summer.
[50:17] No. I have anything?
[50:30] Joanna?
[50:31] Yeah. Can I, yeah, I can ask? I was looking for this
[50:36] learning path or some video or course about transition portal, but I could not really find anything in the university
[50:43] Yeah. Page. Yeah. So you the transition portal doesn't have anything in university.
[50:49] It's on the community page. Let me find that while
[50:52] everyone is asking for questions. On university, look for secure transportings.
[50:57] Uh-huh. And I'll get you the one for the transition portal in the chat in a second.
[51:02] Okay.
[51:11] Give me a second.
[51:13] Yeah.
[51:16] And and this transition portal
[51:19] package is available for
[51:22] for anyone? If I if I can go to the Hawxway
[51:26] portal,
[51:27] then
[51:28] can I download
[51:30] the package for transition portal, or is it not publicly available?
[51:35] It's it's available
[51:37] if you have entitlement
[51:39] for it. I'm not sure if
[51:42] everyone that has x s b has it automatically
[51:45] or
[51:45] how you can get it. That that's a question for Eric and because he has your
[51:52] The conversation.
[51:53] Yeah.
[51:54] Yeah. Because it it's one of our restricted availability
[51:57] products because it's not something that is very easy for someone that doesn't understand XAV and SQ to work with.
[52:04] It's really a product to assist. So if you look at the chat window,
[52:08] I posted the link. This is the XAVI Gateway to secure transport migration
[52:14] user group that they did, and there is a PDF
[52:18] in there.
[52:19] This PDF is basically the PowerPoint.
[52:22] And as I said, some of the stuff is in French, but a lot of the technical details are in English.
[52:28] Okay.
[52:30] So
[52:30] pretty it should be pretty strict. And even the French is not that bad French wise. It's like a 100 pages. And
[52:38] even the the stuff in French, you know, there is Google translate and so on. But Yeah. Yeah. Okay. But also if you start looking
[52:47] and and one of the things it it also contains the presentation of how our services team runs a project with the portal.
[52:55] Uh-huh. So it's exactly what you will see.
[52:59] Okay.
[53:00] So I understood that the transition portal is not available for everyone.
[53:05] And because I've seen that in the documentation,
[53:09] that we that the steps for installation
[53:12] of,
[53:13] for the installation of transition portal. But when I go to the downloads,
[53:18] I could not find that. But I now know the reason because
[53:22] Yes. So, basically, the way download our downloads page works is that when sales
[53:28] or support or someone marks your account as you are entitled to this product, you will start seeing the new build from it.
[53:35] And I'm not sure if you
[53:38] will get entitled to it or will be hosting it. I just don't know what the current plan is for your account.
[53:45] Okay. So Yeah. You you can ask your account executive or Pink Eric and see if he knows
[53:51] if you as
[53:53] I said, it's on customer per customer base. But for
[53:58] anything
[53:59] in in Axway,
[54:01] when you go to your downloads, only the you will see only the products that you have entitlement
[54:06] to. Okay. Yeah. Clear. That's just how it works. When I go, I can see everything because I work for us. Right? You know? Okay. But if I log in but but if a customer
[54:17] logs in, what you see is what you get. So and that's important to know because if you are entitled to a product but you don't see it, you need to talk to support because they need to flip the the
[54:28] the flag, basically. That's all it does.
[54:31] Okay. Yeah. Clear. Thank you, Anna. And I just looked through the PDF a little quick quick here after I send the link. About 90% of this thing is in English, including the whole description of how a project works. So Okay. Okay. You should be just fine.
[54:47] Oh, yeah. Thank you. They have a few things in French at the beginning. I believe when they talked,
[54:52] the actual recording will be in French. So if you want that, you call you can send them out to community or to Lucy, and they can send you the recording, but it will be in French. So that doesn't help much.
[55:03] But at least the PowerPoint is pretty straightforward,
[55:07] and it's actually a pretty well built one, and it's mostly in English. So you should be fine.
[55:12] Okay. Okay. And again, you can use that as a base to actually talk to
[55:18] Eric about
[55:20] I think, like, nice
[55:21] pictures and how decision rules changes to advance routing and things like that, exactly what you're asking about. And then there is a whole set of slides at the bottom about the transition portal itself.
[55:32] Yep. Yep. And flow manager and whatnot. And they switch between English and French in slides occasionally.
[55:38] So
[55:39] Yeah. Yeah. Thank you so much, Joanna. Absolutely. And good luck.
[55:45] Thank you. And when is the next user group meeting,
[55:49] or is it every
[55:50] So okay.
[55:52] So
[55:53] ask Annie this one, which is for secure transport is every month.
[55:57] I'm doing monthly. So
[55:59] the next one is I so if you go to the user group screen on
[56:04] and I'll let me put just put that. If you go to the user group screen
[56:09] Mhmm.
[56:10] And this is this one. You can see all of the user groups that had been scheduled for the different products.
[56:17] Okay. And keep in mind that some of them are in France, some of them in in person. If they're in person, if you register,
[56:23] you are welcome, but you need to travel. So
[56:26] I don't see the October
[56:28] ones already. The Askani is for October,
[56:31] although we have the dates, so they'll probably show up later this week or next week maybe.
[56:36] Mhmm.
[56:37] But Ask Annie is monthly.
[56:41] Okay.
[56:42] And, occasionally, we will do other user groups which are based on topics.
[56:47] And then at the very bottom of the screen, if you click to click
[56:51] to manage file transfer,
[56:52] which leads you to this one,
[56:54] there is a recording or presentation
[56:57] for everyone that we had done since
[56:59] '21,
[57:00] so for the last almost four years.
[57:04] K.
[57:04] So if you want, you can
[57:07] look at the presentation or listen to the recording or ask for the record. Some of the recordings, you might need to send the mail to the community for some of the older ones if something interests you.
[57:17] But the second page I send, the user groups page, is where you can always see what is already scheduled and you can register.
[57:25] Yep. And I don't know where you are physically.
[57:28] I'm I'm in Netherlands.
[57:30] Well, sorry about that.
[57:33] I'm not late. But we're doing some European user groups
[57:37] as well. I just don't know that often.
[57:40] So because now
[57:42] we're going to we'll have five, I think, in The United States in person in the next three months.
[57:48] So we're heading it out. But, again, this one, the Ask Honey, is
[57:53] every month.
[57:55] Yes.
[57:56] Great. Thank you. Yep.
[57:58] And everyone is always welcome on it. And we we record. So if you miss it and just do want to listen to it, you can always listen later.
[58:05] So okay.
[58:09] Okay. Do we have anything else?
[58:13] Hello.
[58:14] Hey, Kenneth. Hi. I have a question regarding the Ad hoc system to human interface.
[58:21] Okay.
[58:24] When I look at the instructions to set up the configuration,
[58:28] I noticed we have to set up a d four network zone.
[58:34] So I have it working, but I would like to know if
[58:37] because we we have the core and
[58:40] the edge for the
[58:43] external users as well. So I'm wondering if
[58:47] ST can support
[58:50] different
[58:51] ERP fix based on
[58:54] the email address of the
[58:56] the people we're trying to send the files to.
[59:00] No. Not based on the email, I'm afraid. It's based on
[59:06] where you're coming from. Are you coming from the edges or the servers? That's what it is because it's on the networking zone.
[59:13] So in the networking zone,
[59:16] you're talking about the public URL. Right?
[59:19] Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. So if we have a system
[59:23] initially transferred to the humans,
[59:27] how are we able to support
[59:29] both internal and external users? Oh, I understand what you're asking. Okay. So, actually, the answer to that might be actually better. So you are doing ad hoc as server initiated. Right? Mhmm.
[59:42] Okay. So when you're creating the transfer site
[59:48] no. That that's the wrong thing I clicked on. Hold on a second.
[59:54] Where
[59:55] is my
[59:57] the system to human. Right? Yep.
[60:04] Unfortunately,
[60:06] that one
[60:08] and that's why I want that's why I have a live server because I don't remember everything.
[60:11] So as you know, for the regular
[60:14] sites,
[60:16] you'd have a networking zone that would have sent you to whichever zone it is. We don't have one here,
[60:22] and that's
[60:24] and that's why you cannot control where it's going through. Okay. That's the problem.
[60:28] So if you
[60:30] you I'll get you the same advice I gave earlier. Open an idea for that because the solution for that will be for us to add the networking zone here.
[60:39] And then when we know which networking zone we're going through, we might be able to. The challenge and why we don't have it is because it's email. Email cannot go through SOX.
[60:49] And our only way to go through
[60:52] the the way they were thinking about networking zone is always about SOX proxies. Right?
[60:57] However, in this case, we don't care about the proxy. What we care about is the URL itself.
[61:02] So Yep.
[61:04] Either they can we can put the URL to be on here to be able to override from here, or we can allow from here to select the zone so that you can have the multiple URLs,
[61:15] but we don't have that. So open an idea about that. Explain your use case exactly what you're trying to achieve.
[61:22] Okay. And how they'll solve it, I don't know. I know why it's not here because it's not relevant.
[61:28] Right? This cannot be SOX, and the whole point of the networking zones always had been the SOX proxies on transfer sites.
[61:35] But in this case,
[61:36] it's one of those cases when you have the two functionalities who are built and merged together,
[61:41] and then somewhere in the middle, we forgot to do a configuration.
[61:45] So
[61:46] you're stuck for now.
[61:49] Okay. Got it. Thanks. So the way, by the way, people usually solve that, in my experience, is to send everything to their own exchange servers internal and allow them to forward out
[62:02] and do your routing of the mail in your exchange. So you work with your mail admins
[62:08] and always use the external URL on the link.
[62:13] Oh, that would mean you have to attach the files instead of just sending the link?
[62:17] Well, you can do that, but my point is so because all this sent is a mail. Right? And the idea is that it contains a link how to get to the files.
[62:27] So if you do your URL to be the external
[62:31] part, the external
[62:32] URL,
[62:34] then
[62:35] actually, it's not the mail problem. It's for your load balancer people or someone on the networking player. If you're coming from inside and hitting the external URL for them to somehow route you to the internal or whatever you want them to do, you know, Pure networking.
[62:51] Okay. Alright. Thank you. But but the the way to set it up if you want to external is put the URL to the external URL, the external load balancer, and then deal with your internal people differently. You can even just put a note in there. If you're internal, please use different URL or whatever. You know? Internal people usually are used easier to to work with.
[63:12] Okay. Right. Thank you. By the way, in another customer, the way they solved it is they have to set separate servers, one for internals, one for externals. So they just point to the correct one.
[63:24] But that's a different it's a lot more complicated that way. But, yes, open an idea.
[63:30] Okay. Thank you. Mhmm.
[63:34] Okay. What
[63:41] else do we have, or do we have something? Oh, by the way,
[63:45] for if you had one seen that site for the last three years or so, now you can send the whole file as an attachment so they don't even need to come download the file.
[63:55] But careful about the size of this file because it's
[63:59] there is a maximum size that you can specify in a parameter.
[64:05] And if the file is bigger, we're not going to send it as a mail attachment.
[64:10] So Yep. It just heads up. It works beautifully when you're sending something very small.
[64:16] So depending on your use case, that might all also be an option to resolve the whole problem with URLs, then they don't apply at all. But,
[64:26] you know, no one like these days, one likes opening attachments, so it's up to you how to handle it.
[64:34] Okay. Thank you. Mhmm. Okay.
[64:37] Those attachments
[64:38] I'm sorry. Are those attachments encrypted at all?
[64:42] Nope.
[64:43] Well, if you PGP encrypt the file before you send it, it will be PGP encrypted. But otherwise, we we just attach whatever we find. Okay.
[64:52] It it's like it's the same as the download. Don't download, except that instead of you needing to log in and come grab it or click on a link, it just comes to my your mail. Okay.
[65:02] It works for status things. It doesn't work for real data.
[65:06] So Gotcha. Thank you. But again, the it it's the same old rule.
[65:12] We you can do SMTP over SSL, so that will be encrypted, and then what happens inside happens inside.
[65:18] So
[65:20] okay. Yep.
[65:22] Okay.
[65:24] What else do we have?
[65:33] One time? Second time?
[65:36] If not, I'll give you twenty minutes back from your wife.
[65:45] Sounds like we have a shortish meeting today
[65:48] or some value of short.
[65:51] Hey, Mark.
[65:54] And
[65:56] I saw Mark unmuting, and then he disappeared.
[66:03] Okay.
[66:05] Okay.
[66:08] Well, then back to Lucy, and thanks everyone for joining us. We'll talk again next month. If you are in one of the locations where we will have user groups,
[66:18] which is let me go grab my list, by the way.
[66:22] Yep.
[66:24] We are going to Seattle,
[66:26] Scottsdale,
[66:27] Dallas.
[66:32] Let's see what else. I keep forgetting. Chicago. Chicago.
[66:36] September 24, Seattle. September 26, Scottsdale.
[66:41] October 24, Chicago. November 13
[66:45] in
[66:46] Dallas, and November 21 in Sacramento. So we are
[66:50] on the road.
[66:52] And
[66:53] if you guys have any
[66:56] interest in attending any of these, if you're not already signed up, please email me lcoltman@axeway.com,
[67:02] and I'll be glad to send you information. Again, you can always go on the community
[67:06] portal
[67:07] as well to
[67:10] check those out.
[67:12] They're gonna be user group sessions,
[67:14] and some locations are gonna be at our at a Topgolf venue to add a little fun to the event. It'll be a user group session in the beginning of the afternoon and then
[67:25] a social event afterwards at some of the locations.
[67:30] But be glad to give you more information on that.
[67:33] So please let us know because we'd love to have you.
[67:36] Totally free to you and and
[67:39] our opportunity
[67:40] to
[67:41] interact with you guys and and
[67:43] make it fun as well. So,
[67:46] yes,
[67:47] happy to do that. And then
[67:50] I think that's it for now. Thank you all for attending,
[67:53] and I will be sending out the presentation and recording link
[67:57] this afternoon as soon as I tie everything up on this end.
[68:01] And
[68:02] just wanna quickly mention too,
[68:04] you guys will probably get a survey.
[68:07] Just really brief.
[68:08] Really appreciate your feedback on that. It really helps us on our end to
[68:13] know, you know, how we did and and,
[68:15] you know,
[68:17] how you feel about the the user group session today. So I really appreciate you taking literally two minutes to just fill that out. We would love that. So
[68:27] if you have any more questions,
[68:29] please let us know. But thank you, Annie, as always. Very informative.
[68:34] There's pretty much no question you can't answer.
[68:38] So
[68:39] you guys have a great rest of your afternoon,
[68:42] and
[68:44] look forward to seeing you at the next one.
[68:46] Thanks, everyone, for joining. Have a great rest of the day, whatever part of the day it is. And if it's evening already, have a wonderful evening. That's right.
[68:57] Bye. Thank you. Thank you.
[68:59] Thank you. Bye. Thank you. Talk
[69:03] to you next month
[69:04] or see you this month.
[69:06] Thank you. Have a day. Thank you. Bye. Bye.